The great head of the Secretariat of President Viktor Yushchenko, people’s deputy and “lord of Transcarpathia” Viktor Baloga himself felt the need to cooperate with the journalists of “Ukrainian Truth”.
The reason is clear - the recent protests against Mukachevo for his participation in the “Right Sector” and people’s deputy Mikhailo Lanyo call for rich food and for Baloga.
Did you finance the “Right Sector”? Are you one of the parties to the conflict? Why did you say that you are a swindler, and why are you interested in smuggling flows in Transcarpathia?
Balogh conducted the interview at his spacious office in Podol. On the other hand, when it comes to roztashov, the metal sniper is in charge.
Informally, the drawn-in Baloga asks the UP correspondents from the very first second not to stir up the stink.
“We came up to those interviews with cigarettes,” says the press secretary.
– Your cigarettes, by the way, are imported. Stars? – crow “Ukrainian Pravda”
Baloga laughs and confirms that they will be added to Austria.
When eating, the UP shows emotion - laughing, actively gesticulating, looking around, frying.
At the hour of the interview, the secretary brings Balozi a pamphlet with the nicknames of the agents, who are already checking in with the receptionist. Ale people's deputy is in no hurry and continues the spilkuvaniya.
At the end of the interview, it is clear that the great president Viktor Yushchenko and the ex-people’s deputy, one of the leaders of “Our Ukraine” Yuriy Kostenko, who came to visit kava.”
– Over the past two years, there have been dozens of versions of what happened to Mukachevoy. That's the number of people who bothered you. What is your version?
– The answer is quite simple.
About those who will be Zustrich Lanyo’s “Rule the Sector” I know about four times. Really, how ardent are the guys in the “Right Sector” and how narrow-minded this people’s deputy is, it was necessary to earn everything so that this zustrich would not lose out. Whatever you wanted to say, go to the field, into the forest and pray. Fight with your fists, fight with clubs - whatever you want.
– Why didn’t you come out publicly and say that there would be a showdown in Mukachevo?
– There could be a hundred such sustriches in Ukraine today... In a terrible dream, I couldn’t imagine that in a quiet, peaceful place there would be such a striker, that there would be grenade launchers, that there would be 100 on the side of Lanyo the man and the police...
I huffed, thinking that Mordi would beat me. I didn’t even think that they would be given the opportunity to come from Uzhgorod fully armed. I don't believe it!
– Why is there a conflict between the “Rule Sector” and Lanyo?
– There are a lot of versions. Alas, this sustrich met between them at Mukachevo... According to Lanyo’s version, he asked them for kava (laugh). Pozhlivo, kava and bula, or similar, the stench of Pan Mikhail came to his heels.
– The “Right Sector” version suggests that the stench did not allow him to engage in smuggling. You, as a person who lives in Transcarpathia, who knows what is happening and who knows about this nobility.
- Definitely. The story about Balogh’s smuggling is already being raised under the new rule of the entire river.
- What is your rank? You were almost gone for a whole day.
– I wrote about this more than once on my Facebook page.
I also especially repeatedly attacked the President and said that it was necessary to replace the police chief, so as not to catch mischief. And vzagali is an unreliable person.
I want to respect that I rose to the rank of President a decade ago. But they didn’t recognize the man from the planting.
And there was no food that we could offer to anyone. We only wanted one thing: give any other person from any region of Ukraine who can restore order in the region.
In fact, the conflict between the “Rule Sector” and the police is becoming even worse than fate. And it became clear that since the police are at war with the “Right Sector”, and the “Right Sector” is at war with the police, then there will be problems sooner rather than later. I never would have thought that there would be a trikutnik - the police, bandits and the Right Sector.
– Are you talking about the head of the regional MVS Sharanich? Since Ivan Voloshin, the first protector of the mayor of Uzhgorod, has recognized the serpent, you have a rather long conflict with Sharanich. If you arrested your plane, if you were still the head of the Presidential Secretariat. By submitting a subpoena to the police about the removal of property. Tell us about your relationship with this person. Is there no conflict?
– There is a conflict, but not according to the food you named.
In 2004, the family had to elect the head of the mistress for the sake of winning Viktor Ivanovich Baloha. Ale result Balogi wrote to (Ernest) Nuser, and Nuser result was written Balozi, so they changed nicknames.
On the 12th anniversary of the night they announced Nuser's victory, and on the 4th day the place for saving ballots was burned. This was absolutely lawlessness and Svaville, the like of which the country had never seen before.
This work was carried out by the current head of the UBZ Sharanich. I also stated that this people can only get out of their gardens, but also get into their pockets, because they have committed evil - they have rigged elections.
Over the course of a month, the countries of the European Union put pressure on Kuchma and asked Nusser to leave the country. And Sharanich quietly left the central apparatus and waited to see if he could be raised again.
In 2005, just after the revolution broke out, Sharanich reappeared.
He was appointed by the then Minister Lutsenko, who wanted to make him the head of the Internal Affairs Directorate.
I then go to the reception before President Yushchenko and say: “How can such a person, who was involved in falsifying elections in the election of the head of the UBZ, be able to apply for the position of the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the election of the head of the Department of Internal Affairs?”
– Who pushed Sharanich to the prison camp for once? You know that he was assigned to a quota.
- Yes, for the Popular Front quota. And now I want to move him. If Yakbi wanted fear of the people, they could have put it in reserve, and not immediately.
– So you want to say that Avakov has a special situation that has developed in Transcarpathia?
- Definitely. You can write to me.
– Do you want to say that he is covering up smuggling in the region?
– If we talk about smuggling, then we need to be more careful: 95% of smuggling is imported. This iPhone, this expensive brandy, this perfume, this flower, this decorative wood, electronics... And pennies, of course, will not be paid into the budget for the import of anything into the country. And you and I are talking about a small piece of expert statistics - cigarettes. And let's get on with it.
What is cigarette smuggling?
In Transcarpathia and Lviv region there are border guards at the cordon. There are police everywhere on the approaches, for example, in the region there are 5 thousand. And tell me, what kind of cigarettes would you like to carry if you are not in contact with the police and guards?
Mentally, apparently, we want to smuggle cigarettes. You get home with the guard, but you need to get home with the police in order to get from point A to point B. It’s logical, it’s simple.
And now let me tell you: who counts the border guards in Transcarpathia or in any other region? Near Kiev, Prikordonna service. Who is the head of the Internal Affairs Directorate? The minister acknowledges. Where are the border guards? Perhaps, near Avakov.
We understand that it is impossible to pass the cordon without guards and police, so how can food be supplied to anyone other than those who are with him? Who's with him today? Sharanich is friends with Lanyo, with Lunchenko (people's deputy of the Popular Front - UP), they are one team.
– The role of Lunchenko in tsyomu yak?
– I assume that it coordinates. This is the quota. Vin coordinates Lanyo's work.
– So you immediately confirm that the Transcarpathian region was given to the “Popular Front”.
- So, they gave it to the prime minister.
– You knew that they financed the “Right Sector”... They said before that they didn’t. Why?
– I said that I did not finance the “Right Sector” after the revolution. Although I financed them during the revolution, I also financed the Maidan. Carrying both helmets and gas masks...
– What are we talking about?
- Not a million. Milyoni we give to the 128th brigade. From there we drop everything, friends drop off throughout the region. And a lot of money goes there. Especially in front of the Debaltsevo cauldron - a big deal. And I said that we helped the “Right Sector” near the Maidan, definitely.
- What kind of relationship do you have with Yarosh?
“He got in touch with me, the first time we got to know each other was around the time of the Maidan. Every day they clenched their teeth together – purely working ones. And after the Maidan, we got along in parliament, if we still went to meetings. And they were immediately excited when they arrived in Transcarpathia.
– Do you know any particular people who took part in the conflict with Lanyo?
- Nobody.
– Have you previously financed the Transcarpathian “Right Sector”?
- Don't twist it. I financed the Maidan for an hour.
– Why did you say that you were a negotiator?
- How could it have been otherwise? How could I be convinced? It was about people's lives!
I tell God that I was not far away and that they asked me to sing there. If I hadn’t gone there, I would sing that there would have been many more victims - both on the one hand and on the other.
– Okrim Sharanich, you also have a conflict with Lanyo. Tell us about the cause of the conflict with Lanyo? He’s already talked a lot about you, saying that you are a chubby Transcarpathian woman.
– The essence of a difficult story lies in the fact that we live in the same area, but in different ways make money for our living.
- And you feel cramped. You cannot divide the spheres in one go.
– How do the spheres flow? We have nothing to share - we have different interests. I don’t want to say absolutely nothing about this person, because I respect that there is a lot of honor.
- Ale vin was at your party's stake. Is that why you have mercy on people?
- I, just like you, will have mercy. There are no people in life who seem to have no mercy.
– After all, you were business partners.
- Nikoli. What kind of business are you talking about? I have a systemic business in my homeland: a pharmaceutical plant, supermarkets, a rural state. What kind of business does Lanyo have? Yogo business is cigarette smuggling.
– You took a normal person into your party
- I’m shaking off, we have mercy on everything. If you say that we are business partners, I’m not sure.
– Did you give pennies to finance the “United Center”?
– Які гроші?
- Why did you take him into the party?
– Vin passed by majority vote. Under our brand, yes, but by majority!
– The story, as told by the officers and spies of “Ukrainian Pravda”, both in law enforcement agencies and in other battalions, is approximately this: you were business partners in the difficult business of smuggling cigarettes, Then your routes parted ways, if Lanyo joined the party, and then you could not control the smuggling flows.
– If you write this, I will sue you (laugh). Because in order to speak such speeches, it requires the mother of either God in the heart, or the mother of fact.
I’ll tell you this, never in my life, God knows, I won’t be involved in this specific business. Tse pershe. And to a friend: I don’t think at all for such speeches, because I have children in me, I already have children, thank God, and I know that this is sin.
– Do you know people like Vasya Prince, Derkach? All the people of Lanyo, who were engaged in smuggling in Transcarpathia and who imprisoned anything through you. What causes conflict between you and the vine?
– I don’t know about the nicknames, but I’ll tell you this: transporting cigarettes, transporting huge people from India, Pakistan, the Chinese, manufacturing and selling drugs – these are the things that the security bloc can deal with early in the morning and until the evening.
Since such a situation has been created in the central area, I respect that everyone who is suspected needs to be detained.
From whom it is necessary to lift the immunity - lift the immunity, and before the law, all guilty people will be equal. Today, there is more hype and speculation about those who are powerful—helicopters fly, technology drives. As the bandits went, they will continue to go as they did, and they will continue to use drugs.
What is needed is robotism, not populism. I would use radium so that all smugglers of Ukraine, not just Transcarpathia, would be jailed. What about export, what about import. All those who are involved in the production and distribution of drugs, so that not those who are imprisoned, but those who are shot. Enter the article and shoot everyone who is involved in it. Our nation cannot hope that we will be given the opportunity to engage in the production and distribution of drugs under the “crooking” of the police.
Are Lviv and Lugansk regions not the same? Is there no smuggling in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions? It is impossible to equalize the level of smuggling in Donbass and the level of smuggling in Transcarpathia today. It's not possible! 1 to 100.
– It’s a little crazy in Transcarpathia.
– It’s crazy because they created this situation on a whim from Kiev.
- Who?
– Since Sharanich has given up his position, who will be able to create this situation?
– Do you understand that this situation was created in order for Sharanich to lose his personnel promotion?
- No, that’s not how food sounds. Do you admit that these guys from the “Right Sector” could drive, to the bone, 45 km to Mukachevo without stopping anyone?
You fed Sharanich, why did they get so excited that they were allowed to go to Mukachevo? Why did they catch them at the gate, if they had already left? Why didn’t they catch the stink in that direction? Why didn’t they shut down their base? I don't know what the stink is, where is this base? I don't know what the stink is, what's wrong with them?
The police knew everything. I immediately realize that this is only Sharanich’s special operation.
- Special operation for what?
- In order to close them there.
If only I realized that the situation was not in order to close them there, but the situation was in something else. Their mentality was praised well by both the “Right Sector” and Lanyo. They respected the fact that they need to date the song with a thick layer of zbra, there will definitely be essences there. They all shoot them - the doe ones, and the police then shoot them.
After which the president comes to Transcarpathia and says: “We are introducing the ATO and putting things in order.” And after that, the military administration was introduced.
- What is this needed for?
– In order to make it easier for people to vote for the government, because people will vote for the government in the hope that it will probably be calm. How else can you overcome the ruler for whom the people died in the morning?
- Under the authority of whom do you respect?
– Everyone who formed a coalition and delegated their people to the new ruler.
- Check. You are talking about those who shout Avakov. Avakov - the People's Front. And now you say that the president needs nothing. Why is there less food in 2014 - in the pre-government elections you actually went to the BPP. More precisely, you were considered a self-victim, but for supporting the BPP.
- Or maybe just like that? Maybe the stench came from Baloga’s dressing?
- Tell me about your home ownership.
– I am correcting your position: it was not I who followed their support, but the stinks that followed my support. For our team support.
– You had a relationship with the president, how will you ensure peace in the Transcarpathian region?
- No.
– What kind of housekeeping were there?
– We had to support the household in the elections – presidential, parliamentary. What we have earned and supported.
– В обмін на що?
- No matter. What does Balozi need from Poroshenko? I am a self-sufficient person.
- Why didn’t you go?
– Because I don’t see any prospects for this political force. Vaughn reminds me of “Our Ukraine”, if Viktor Andriyovich collected those who could not be collected. He also got this peace. You can’t bring together mentally different people at once. I will not get into personalities, otherwise I felt uncomfortable accepting the proposal to join the faction.
– But in the public square they expressed their dissatisfaction with the fact that you will take from the faction a balog that cannot be robbed, Lutsenko began to regain his courage. Such a family clan...
– If you say “family clan”, then all the elected representatives of Transcarpathia are in the clan. Because I’m not on the BPP list, people robbed me.
-My position is this: I don’t agree with either Yushchenko or Yanukovych, and I don’t intend to follow the lead of the current President.
– You won’t compete with Poroshenko in the local elections?
- I won’t. I told you that I was inspired to go to the local elections together.
– Where did your support go: did you give people, finance the campaign?
– We did not finance the campaign. We gave people to the commission and started campaigning.
– Will you nominate your candidates for the local elections?
- So.
– The law is very cunning and complex. Aren't you afraid that you won't meet the 5% bar?
– We are playing elections in Transcarpathia.
– In Transcarpathia you have virtually no political competition….
- It doesn’t happen that way. Why is there no competition? Did they burn them with napalm? Stop reaching out to people, stop helping people and there will be competition. No one wants to work with people, no one wants to help people.
- Because you already have a lot of fates there. It’s amazing that in 2012 you lived with Poroshenko, in 2014 you lived with Poroshenko...
– What is the essence of nutrition? If the Transcarpathians encourage us, but they are not encouraged, then what is the nutrition? Why does Vinnytsia support Poroshenko?
- Because there is a factory there.
- Then take one Roshen from Lipetsk and put it in Transcarpathia, then they will encourage him. Who cares? Let’s transport him, spend on logistics and that’s it, we’ll all kiss him, and we’ll all support him, not Balogh.
– You are encouraged to go to the meeting of the hourly investigative committee before the Verkhovna Rada, they will check you for two years, they have again given you a proposal. You say that the protégés of those who are smuggling are sitting there. Who do you respect in the commission?
– (Valery) Patskan, (Valery) Lunchenko. What's enough?
— They told Lanyo to try vicoristati in offensive schemes. Why then?
- The answer is quite simple. First of all, the people are quite nervous. In other words, having forgotten all your sins, you stand in front of those to whom you are trying to supply drugs.
And there is a problem with the SBU, I emphasize that it is not with the police, but with the SBU, there is a problem with the partners, and people just want to get involved, sit down, and then make a decision when it settles down.
– Did you and the president get involved after this situation arose?
– During the current situation, we came together three times.
- About what? Why did I call you?
– Yakbi, the President, holding me responsible for what happened, is entirely logical that he would not talk to me on the phone, so as not to compromise himself. First of all, I was the first to call about this incident and I said that I was going there. He told me: “Do everything so that it will be good.”
And then, at the hour of the third ring, he said to me: “Tell them so that the stench goes away.” And I say: “Your head of the service has already communicated with the soldiers five times. They ask for the stink, so that Yarosh gives him the go-ahead. Yarosh left without giving such a go-ahead.” The President says: “Tell them that they will be depleted.” I say: “Gritsak said that they will be poor because they will not give up until their ninth year.” And after that, without saying a word. After that came the introduction of important technology (laugh).
- Why are you laughing?
– (bursts into laughter) This is crazy laughter. You will see equipment flying over the forest, the place is filled with military forces. And at the same time thousands of people in the forest pick berries and mushrooms. And everything is important in camouflage...
– After that, the president made a statement that the clans that divided Transcarpathia actually created a threat to the sovereign power, the culprits would be kicked in the teeth and confessed to their ties. Does he respect you?
– Since we are in the respect of those who started selling cigarettes, then we did the right thing. Since you respect me, a people’s deputy, I will say that my clan is so small and consists of three brothers.
And richly larger and more powerful clans. If the speaker is from Vinnytsia, if there are representatives of Poroshenko’s entire management, then this is a clan.
A clan is a classic clan, if it is a classic president or prime minister, a minister, a speaker, a business. And I can clearly say that the classic clan is the president’s clan.
And we have a small cooperative (laughs). Klanchik Transcarpathia. I became a deputy and the boys did so. I will repeat once again: as it is a clan, then all the voters of Transcarpathia are from the clan, because they robbed me of the stink.
– How is your cooperative chi clan located in the governor’s suburb before Moskal?
- I can’t wash this food. The president's food, who he trusts. Don’t let anyone put you in charge, and then you’ll see what the result will be. Because today you can say what is appropriate and what is not? If you catch mice, then everything will be fine...
– You know Moskal.
- Forgive me. They called me out, and in my place they arrived in 2001. I can give a political assessment. This is the President's food. And we will give an assessment after that, whether it’s better to catch mice or not to catch them.
- Your little clan will give you an assessment.
– No, Transcarpathians will give an assessment.
– In 2008, Rotsi Moskal didn’t talk about you so much, he talked about those who complain to me in Transcarpathia that you all care in Transcarpathia, that you have a family there.
– My family is not going to live.
– Is this situation dangerous for Transcarpathia? The fragments here may be separatist sentiments...
- No. We cannot appreciate the situation, and there are no separatist sentiments, there never was and never will be. Transcarpathia - Ukrainian. I'm brutally devouring my respect. There are separatist sentiments both in Vinnytsia and in Kiev – there are a couple of bad guys here. But as we say zagalo, there are no moods. We clearly understand that it would be better to be in the dense Transcarpathia than in Donbass, where there is war. And people clearly understand: what is calm and peace, and what is war.
Baloga and yogo “inconsistency” guest Viktor Yushchenko, who bequeathed kava
– Another version is a possible provocation on the part of Viktor Medvedchuk, who is Putin’s godfather. What is your role in this story? Somehow this version looked the same.
- I'll say it more broadly. Medvedchuk cannot provoke anything, since there is no home ownership. I wouldn’t want to talk about Medvedchuk’s role in the provocations in Transcarpathia today. I would like to speak in a different context. It would be good if, before planning any kind of provocations in order to achieve any kind of results, intellectually apparent, to reduce political opponents, you need to think about the bunt first. We have one country. And you don’t need to grab the ship from left to right, it just gets angry.
The guarantor’s task is to prevent anyone from engaging in such provocations. I can't take care of it. Every now and then you need to think about what the legacy is, what kind of storm will be and who is going to die. I believe that as soon as the President is in charge, such speeches should not be repeated anywhere else.
– Nowadays, you are even more critical of your attitude towards the President...Are you going to immediately vote war on Poroshenko?
– No, I understand that at such an important hour, when everyone’s eyes are focused on the Skhid, they have started to work in Transcarpathia.
But if they didn’t spend money, it’s a pity that they didn’t pay for what we asked them to do. Because such speeches can only bother people if they don’t make friends with their heads.
– Haven’t you heard of Sharanich?
- They raised it. And human sacrifices, and someone else was promoted to service.
– You entered the public square after this scandalous story. How is your special person meta?
– This story has my own special meta, so that nothing else could have happened. And today, my goal is to speed up this process, so that the new government gains points from the Transcarpathians, and so that they don’t let anything happen again.
Otherwise, everyone guilty will be punished: drug addicts, smugglers, and villains - all guilty will be in prison. Finish with the separatists as soon as you go - if you want one, you may end up in prison.
– Well, you sing, do you know all the nicknames and how there were a lot of fates in Transcarpathia?
- I don't know. My brothers sometimes laugh at me, because I don’t know. I'm so excited. I live entirely in a different orbit.
- Are you the kind of ruler of Transcarpathia who never flowed into the remaining river?
“I am such a ruler of Transcarpathia that I have never had enough of the food you are talking about.” People didn’t ask me to get involved in smuggling, and if I got involved in this, the Transcarpathians turned away from me a long time ago.
Sevgil Musaeva-Borovik, Maria Zhartovska, UP
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